[Homer2009-1] Conference call this Monday, Nov. 2, 8pm EST -- RSVP + q's

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Thanks Cathryn!

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>From: homer2009-1-bounces at readingodyssey.org
>[mailto:homer2009-1-bounces at readingodyssey.org] On Behalf Of Beckwith
>Cynthia
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>Subject: Re: [Homer2009-1] Conference call this Monday, Nov. 2, 8pm EST
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>I will be on the call. Looking forward to it! 
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>On Oct 30, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Andre Stipanovic <[
>mailto:astipanovic at mail.hockaday.org ]astipanovic at mail.hockaday.org>
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>Hi fellow readers--
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>How's your reading of Books 9-16 going?  Any interesting discoveries?
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>Just a reminder that our next call is coming up THIS Monday, November 2,
>8pm EST (7pm Central).
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>Call-in information:
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>Dial-in number: 1 (888) 350-0075
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>(The exact same info as last time)!
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>Please drop me a note confirming:
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>[ ]  Yes, I'll be on the call Monday.
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>[ ]  No, I won't be able to make it.
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>Looking forward to the call, very much!!  I really enjoyed the last one!
>  I've included the questions we'll be looking at below.
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>Happy reading, and talk to you all soon!
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>Warm regards,
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>Study Guide Questions  - Discussion #2
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>Books 9- 16 Reconciliations
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>9-12 Odysseus’ wanderings, “reconciling” Poseidon’s curse
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>1. Book 9 - wise leader?
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>Odysseus is often referred to as “wily, crafty and wise.”  How wise of  
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>a leader is he in the events of Book 9 concerning the Cicones (pp.  
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>126-127), Lotus Eaters (127), and Cyclopes (128-140)?  How much of  
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>these hardships are Odysseus’ own fault?  How much of these hardships  
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>are pre-determined by prophecy?
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>2. Book 10 - crew morale?
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>In Book 10, morale among Odysseus’ crew continues to decline.  How do  
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>the events of Aeolus’ bag of winds (pp. 141-143), Laestrygonians  
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>(143-145), and Circe (145-157) contribute to the decline in morale of  
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>the crew?  What do we learn about Odysseus’ leadership and his  
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>cleverness?  Just when Odysseus is able to rescue his crew from  
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>Circe’s bewitchment, he is notified of a very dangerous voyage he must  
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>make to Hades.  With Circe’s help, Odysseus must consult Tiresias the  
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>prophet.  Why? (see Books 10 & 11)
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>3. Book 11 - Hades
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>In Book 11, the shades/ghosts of many reveal themselves to Odysseus at  
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>Acheron, the entrance to Hades.  Before talking even to his mother  
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>Anticleia, Odysseus makes sure to talk with Tiresias first.  Then  
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>Odysseus allows himself to talk to his mother and other famous Greek  
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>women who appear.  What is the significance to the plot of mentioning  
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>these various Greek heroines (pp. 164-167)?  As Odysseus continues to  
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>tell of Agamemnon, Achilles and other famous Greek men, what does this  
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>panorama of shades suggest about the Greek concept of Hades?  of  
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>Odysseus’ own fears?
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>4. Book 12 - Odysseus alone
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>How do the series of adventures in Book 12 (Sirens, Scylla, Oxen of  
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>the Sun, Thunder & Lightning, Charybdis, Calypso) compare to the  
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>series of adventures (Books 9-10) before Odysseus’ trip to Hades (Book  
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>11)?  Book 5 opens with Odysseus alone and Book 12 ends with Odysseus  
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>alone.  Now that Odysseus has come full circle in his flashbacks, what  
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>is the relatonship between Odysseus and his crew?  How are Odysseus’  
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>feelings compounded by the lack of a crew?
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>13-16 Odysseus’ return to his native land, “reconciling” with Telemachus
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>5. Book 13 - Ithaka
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>In Book 13, Poseidon is not happy with the Phaeacians for conveying  
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>Odysseus home safely.  Given what happens to the Phaeacians in  
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>response to Poseidon’s feelings, how is this action just?  What does  
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>Zeus think about it?  Why does Zeus have anything to do with this?   
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>Athena appears to Odysseus as he wakes up on his own island.  What  
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>part does she play in helping Odysseus?  As clever as Odysseus is, why  
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>would Athena’s help be necessary at this stage of the epic?
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>6. Book 14 - Hospitality revisted?
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>In what ways does Book 14 illustrate the ancient custom of  
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>hospitality?  How does hospitality in this chapter compare with the  
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>hospitality of the Phaeacians (Books 8-13) or Nestor (Book 3) or  
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>Menelaus (Books 4 & 15)?  In Book 14, Odysseus tells two long tales  
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>about both his origin and an incident with a cloak during the Trojan  
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>War.  His stories are inspired by Athena, the goddess of wisdom.  How  
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>does Odysseus balance the level of fiction with the level of truth in  
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>his stories?
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>7. Book 15 - Piety
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>In Book 15, both Odysseus’ and Telemachus’ piety (i.e. duty to the  
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>gods) is revealed in auguries (or bird signs).  How do the auguries  
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>support the intertwining of Odysseus’ and Telemachus’ lives? How does  
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>Telemachus’ piety show with respect to Theoclymenus?  How does  
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>Eumaeus’ piety show with respect to Odysseus?  According to Greek  
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>thinking, is Telemachus’ and Odysseus’ reunion left to chance in any  
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>way?  In many ways, this book is about origins.  Why do you suppose  
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>Homer chose this moment to unveil Eumaeus’ origin, Theoclymenus’  
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>origin and even information about Odysseus’ father, Laertes and  
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>mother, Anticleia?  What do Eumaeus’ and Theoclymenus’ stories tell us  
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>about nobility as an inner quality or characteristic of a person?
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>8. Book 16 - Telemachus and Odysseus
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>As dawn breaks at the opening of Book 16, Telemachus arrives safely to  
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>the swineherd’s hut.  Before the day is over, he will be re-united  
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>with his father Odysseus.   Having been only an infant when Odysseus  
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>left for Troy, how does Telemachus recognize his father?  Why then  
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>does he still doubt his senses?  (see pp. 245-246).  How is Penelope’s  
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>character defined in this book?  Ignorant of Odysseus’ return, what do  
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>Penelope’s actions reveal about her situation with the suitors?  How  
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>does Eurymachus’ pretending contrast with Penelope’s honesty about the  
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>situation?  By the end of the day, Eumaeus returns to his hut and  
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>Telemachus asks about the plot against him by the suitors.  How do  
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>Telemachus’ and Odysseus’ pretending contrast with Eumaeus’ honesty  
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>about the situation?
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