<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Andre Stipanovic" <astipanovic@mail.hockaday.org><br>To: homer2009-1@readingodyssey.org<br>Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:03:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: [Homer2009-1] Conference call this Monday, Nov. 2, 8pm EST -- RSVP + q's<br><br>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">Hi fellow readers--</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">How's your reading of Books 9-16 going? Any interesting discoveries? Feel free to post them--just "reply all" to this email, so that it cc's </font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">Just a reminder that our next call is coming up THIS Monday, November 2, 8pm EST (7pm Central).</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Call-in information:</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Dial-in number: 1 (888) 350-0075</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Type in conference room number / passcode: </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0"> 1100494#</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">(The exact same info as last time)!</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">Please drop me a note confirming:</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">[x ] Yes, I'll be on the call Monday.</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">[ ] No, I won't be able to make it.</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">Looking forward to the call, very much!! I really enjoyed the last one! I've included the questions we'll be looking at below.</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">Happy reading, and talk to you all soon!</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">Warm regards,</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="+0">Andre</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Study Guide Questions - Discussion #2</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Books 9- 16 Reconciliations</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">9-12 Odysseus’ wanderings, “reconciling” Poseidon’s curse</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">1. Book 9 - wise leader?</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Odysseus is often referred to as “wily, crafty and wise.” How wise of </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">a leader is he in the events of Book 9 concerning the Cicones (pp. </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">126-127), Lotus Eaters (127), and Cyclopes (128-140)? How much of </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">these hardships are Odysseus’ own fault? How much of these hardships </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">are pre-determined by prophecy?</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">2. Book 10 - crew morale?</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">In Book 10, morale among Odysseus’ crew continues to decline. How do </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">the events of Aeolus’ bag of winds (pp. 141-143), Laestrygonians </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">(143-145), and Circe (145-157) contribute to the decline in morale of </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">the crew? What do we learn about Odysseus’ leadership and his </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">cleverness? Just when Odysseus is able to rescue his crew from </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Circe’s bewitchment, he is notified of a very dangerous voyage he must </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">make to Hades. With Circe’s help, Odysseus must consult Tiresias the </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">prophet. Why? (see Books 10 & 11)</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">3. Book 11 - Hades</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">In Book 11, the shades/ghosts of many reveal themselves to Odysseus at </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Acheron, the entrance to Hades. Before talking even to his mother </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Anticleia, Odysseus makes sure to talk with Tiresias first. Then </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Odysseus allows himself to talk to his mother and other famous Greek </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">women who appear. What is the significance to the plot of mentioning </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">these various Greek heroines (pp. 164-167)? As Odysseus continues to </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">tell of Agamemnon, Achilles and other famous Greek men, what does this </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">panorama of shades suggest about the Greek concept of Hades? of </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Odysseus’ own fears?</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">4. Book 12 - Odysseus alone</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">How do the series of adventures in Book 12 (Sirens, Scylla, Oxen of </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">the Sun, Thunder & Lightning, Charybdis, Calypso) compare to the </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">series of adventures (Books 9-10) before Odysseus’ trip to Hades (Book </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">11)? Book 5 opens with Odysseus alone and Book 12 ends with Odysseus </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">alone. Now that Odysseus has come full circle in his flashbacks, what </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">is the relatonship between Odysseus and his crew? How are Odysseus’ </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">feelings compounded by the lack of a crew?</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">In Book 13, Poseidon is not happy with the Phaeacians for conveying </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Odysseus home safely. Given what happens to the Phaeacians in </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">response to Poseidon’s feelings, how is this action just? What does </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Zeus think about it? Why does Zeus have anything to do with this? </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Athena appears to Odysseus as he wakes up on his own island. What </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">part does she play in helping Odysseus? As clever as Odysseus is, why </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">would Athena’s help be necessary at this stage of the epic?</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">6. Book 14 - Hospitality revisted?</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">In what ways does Book 14 illustrate the ancient custom of </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">hospitality? How does hospitality in this chapter compare with the </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">hospitality of the Phaeacians (Books 8-13) or Nestor (Book 3) or </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Menelaus (Books 4 & 15)? In Book 14, Odysseus tells two long tales </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">about both his origin and an incident with a cloak during the Trojan </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">War. His stories are inspired by Athena, the goddess of wisdom. How </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">does Odysseus balance the level of fiction with the level of truth in </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">his stories?</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">7. Book 15 - Piety</font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">In Book 15, both Odysseus’ and Telemachus’ piety (i.e. duty to the </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">gods) is revealed in auguries (or bird signs). How do the auguries </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">support the intertwining of Odysseus’ and Telemachus’ lives? How does </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Telemachus’ piety show with respect to Theoclymenus? How does </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Eumaeus’ piety show with respect to Odysseus? According to Greek </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">thinking, is Telemachus’ and Odysseus’ reunion left to chance in any </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">way? In many ways, this book is about origins. Why do you suppose </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Homer chose this moment to unveil Eumaeus’ origin, Theoclymenus’ </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">origin and even information about Odysseus’ father, Laertes and </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">mother, Anticleia? What do Eumaeus’ and Theoclymenus’ stories tell us </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">about nobility as an inner quality or characteristic of a person?</font></div>
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<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">As dawn breaks at the opening of Book 16, Telemachus arrives safely to </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">the swineherd’s hut. Before the day is over, he will be re-united </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">with his father Odysseus. Having been only an infant when Odysseus </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">left for Troy, how does Telemachus recognize his father? Why then </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">does he still doubt his senses? (see pp. 245-246). How is Penelope’s </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">character defined in this book? Ignorant of Odysseus’ return, what do </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Penelope’s actions reveal about her situation with the suitors? How </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">does Eurymachus’ pretending contrast with Penelope’s honesty about the </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">situation? By the end of the day, Eumaeus returns to his hut and </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Telemachus asks about the plot against him by the suitors. How do </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">Telemachus’ and Odysseus’ pretending contrast with Eumaeus’ honesty </font></div>
<div style="text-align: left;" align="left"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="+0">about the situation?</font></div>
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